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 Post subject: 3/8" versus 1/2" engineered flooring, which is best?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:26 pm 
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I am very near purchasing 1/2" 7-ply engineered flooring to float over concrete in a job near Houston, Texas. Recently, I found 7-ply 3/8" in exactly the right color, etc. I am concerned whether the thinner 3/8" is more prone to buckling, warping, bowing than 1/2". I've looked online for hours now, and it seems that the number of plies is the deciding factor. Since both thicknesses are 7-plies, do you consider them equal? Any opinions? Richard


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 Post subject: Re: 3/8" versus 1/2" engineered flooring, which is best?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:40 pm 
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The amount of ply's don't mean a thing. My fav is a 3 ply any thickness. As a matter of fact I believe to many ply's are bad. Especially if they have a thick veneer on top.

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 Post subject: Re: 3/8" versus 1/2" engineered flooring, which is best?
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Will there be any noticable difference between using a 3/8's engineered vs a 1/2" engineered product (it will be glued down to cement). I'm trying to decide between the Appalachian Southern Vista 3/8" and the Virginia Vintage 1/2". Is there a difference in feel or in ability to deal with old imperfect concrete floors? It will be glued down to cement, put on wood stairs and will also be laid in my 6" sunken living room so will have to be installed vertical up the 6" concrete footing and be topped off with a stair nosing to finish. Any advice is appreciated...

Ps The wear layer on the 3/8" product is pretty thin compared to the 1/2" product. Both have the Luster Lock finish though.


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 Post subject: Re: 3/8" versus 1/2" engineered flooring, which is best?
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I think the determining factor will be the thickness of the top layer. The thicker the better.


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 Post subject: Re: 3/8" versus 1/2" engineered flooring, which is best?
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I've always recommended 3/8" because concrete slabs are rarely 100% level.You can almost always find a hump or a dip in concrete.The thinner the wood is the better it will follow the elevation changes.Take a string and pull it tight from corner to corner,diagonally across the room.This will show you any elevation chances.Drastic humps or dips should be ground down or filled in.This is very important.Without a relatively level surface,glued down flooring will work loose in low spots.I've definitely had more problems with the 1/2" than the 3/8" though.


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 Post subject: Re: 3/8" versus 1/2" engineered flooring, which is best?
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jeff burstein wrote:
I think the determining factor will be the thickness of the top layer. The thicker the better.



Unless you have 7 paper thin ply's underneath. Thats called unbalanced construction. The manufacturers got into a contest over the past ten years or so to see who can do more plys, thinking more ply's = more stability. Which is wrong if you throw a thick surface layer on top.

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[quote="whattodo"] Will there be any noticable difference between using a 3/8's engineered vs a 1/2" engineered product (it will be glued down to cement).[quote]

[quote="Floorpro"] I've always recommended 3/8" because concrete slabs are rarely 100% level.You can almost always find a hump or a dip in concrete. [quote]

There shouldn't be a difference between installaing 3/8" or 1/2" over concrete. As long as they're installed correctly.
With both thicknesses...
1) The slab needs to be flat 1/4" in 10'.
2) The slab cleaned from foreign matter.
3) Use correct adhesive
4) Correct trowel size, and spread at 45 degree angle
5) Correct flash period of adhesive
6) Rolled with 150 pound roller

Obviously quite a bit more involved to a succesful engineered hardwood installation. But if these points are followed correctly...thickness shouldn't matter, as far as installation.

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 Post subject: Re: 3/8" versus 1/2" engineered flooring, which is best?
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jeff burstein wrote:
I think the determining factor will be the thickness of the top layer. The thicker the better.



I agree. This will allow more refinishes in the future.

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 Post subject: Re: 3/8" versus 1/2" engineered flooring, which is best?
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RhodesHardwood wrote:
jeff burstein wrote:
I think the determining factor will be the thickness of the top layer. The thicker the better.



I agree. This will allow more refinishes in the future.


I believe a combination of balanced construction, and a thick top layer :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: 3/8" versus 1/2" engineered flooring, which is best?
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If you're debating between an Appalachian and Virginia Vintage, both products will have a thin top wear layer, and they will be constructed in an identical fashion as far as the plywood core is concerned, so you won't really have any advantage choosing the 1/2" over the 3/8" thickness.

Many of us tend to disagree what engineered is better than another. More plies, fewer? So much depends on the manufacturing quality or attention to producing a quality product that will last without problems. The onslaught of Asian engineered floors put a wrinkle in everything.

Take an example. Kahrs, a high quality European manufacturer has been producing three ply for decades. Some have been manufacturing 9 and eleven plies in the likes of Homerwood or Owens.

The there are 3/4 inch engineered floors with very thick wear layers, but it's not for everyone, or those that may be doing remodels without removing ceramic tile. It is a great solution for new construction however.

http://www.uptownfloors.com/products/34 ... neered.htm


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