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 Post subject: Uneven stain, bubbles in finish, tinny swilr marks on floor.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:49 pm 
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First post so I guess Hello to you all and thank-you in advance to all who helps.

Now, after trusting a family member to re-do my floors here is what I ended up with..

My floors are oak, I wanted them stained and re surfaced so I go and buy some dryfast Bona stain as well as some BonaSeal and Mega varnish.

So he sanded the floors, applied a stain prep (minwax pre stain) then stained them in red-mahogany color.
Looked pretty good, but there was a few places that had spots in it, one was a footprint and a few other spots here and there.
So, I asked if he could take that out and he said yes, so he went and sanded then but it never came out good, you could always see where he did the repairs, so after my discontent, he agreed to rent the machine again and taped off the most part of the floor that was good and sanded the rest of it and said I would not be able to see any difference in shades of the stain where he taped it off.
I left for a couple of days and came back to see the floors look very differant from the taped off part where it was untouched compared to the part he re sanded and refinished.
Had lots of small circular swirls just like if he had some rocks under the sanding pad when he used it ?

To make things worst, all around the edges there's either to much varnish, or a lack of it.
On top of that, there's bubbles all over the floor.
Now he said the floor will get back to an even colour and the bubbles will go away after some time of walking on it.
Thing is, I feel he is just trying to cover up his lack of skills.

What can be done if anything to bring this to at least an even colour?
Anything other than re-sanding that is..
And if so, what about the bubbles and the swirl marks? would buffing the floor help at all?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:37 am 
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No good info. The only way to deal with the color issues is to re-sand and stain the floor.

I don't like the idea of the minwax products being used with the bona system. But were the repaired areas stain in the same manner?

bubbles in the finish could be a result of the minwax products. They might be able to be sanded out.

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Thanks for your fast reply!

Yes, the repaired area was done the same way, sanded down with 100 grit, minwax stain prepped (to acheve an even stain absorption he said) , bonafast stained, bona sealer on top of that after a couple of hours and Bona Mega 3 hours after that.
The stain was applied in the same manner as well, rag applied and rag wiped to remove the excess stain right after.

What it looks like is when he sanded the floors, there was still some stain left on the wood and that's why when he applied the new stain to it, the final result ended up looking as if he put on 3 coats instead of the 2 on the rest of the untouched floor?
No expert here, just my reasoning.

So if I have the floor re-sanded, will the color be uniform or will there always be a mark where the floor was re-touched?

This time I'll hire a pro, learned my lesson there!

Thanks again


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I had tried some of these touch up repairs to a stain job. Just as you described they were obvious. They stood out much darker as though there were extra stain on the floor. I expect that with the finish already applied you will need to sand off the finish and stain, then re-apply stain (again I would stay away from using minwax prep with the Bona stain) and apply finish.

The color variance you are experiencing now will not remain once you sand the entire area. You might be able to stop at a doorway. I managed that on my problem floor.

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only thing to do is resand. the reason the area he repaired looks different is because it probably did not get sanded the same way with the same steps, paper and screens. In order for a repair to look good not only do you have to use the same stain (from the same container) but you also have to go through the same steps across everything even stirring the stain. its tough to do but some of us can attempt it and have it come out pretty close.


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[quote="Helpmeplease"]Thanks for your fast reply!

Yes, the repaired area was done the same way, sanded down with 100 grit, minwax stain prepped (to acheve an even stain absorption he said) , bonafast stained, bona sealer on top of that after a couple of hours and Bona Mega 3 hours after that.
The stain was applied in the same manner as well, rag applied and rag wiped to remove the excess stain right after.

What it looks like is when he sanded the floors, there was still some stain left on the wood and that's why when he applied the new stain to it, the final result ended up looking as if he put on 3 coats instead of the 2 on the rest of the untouched floor?
No expert here, just my reasoning.

So if I have the floor re-sanded, will the color be uniform or will there always be a mark where the floor was re-touched?

This time I'll hire a pro, learned my lesson there!

Thanks again[/quote
Check the specs on that Bona Seal and you will find it is not recommended over stain.


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