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 Post subject: two joining rooms getting out of square . How to fix??
PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:24 pm 
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Hi All, great forum. Glad I found y'all.

My husband and I (both pretty handy, but NOT professional installers) have installed 3 rooms (about 750 sq ft) of Cryntel's Kempas Engineered floor in our house, glue down over concrete using Bostik's Best EFA. We're just starting room #4.

We've made a few mistakes along the way (our slab was not as level as we anticipated), but the first three rooms we did actually turned out very beautifully, and we were quite relieved it didn't look like a DIY job.

HOWEVER. The last room we installed is our office, which is part of the master suite. it is attached to the master bedroom through french doors. We had to stop installation after the office to move out of the master bedroom so we could continue work, also we had to travel for a week. In the meantime, we wanted the wood to flow uninterrupted between the two rooms. What should have happened here is that we didn't stop and only do the office. We should've done both rooms at once somehow.

When we did resume work and started doing the bedroom (Monday), we were unsure of how to continue from one room to the other and maintain parallel. In previous rooms, we started parallel to one wall and continued to the other, without problems. Not wanting to cause problems in the master, we started from the middle (where the two rooms connected) and worked our way over to the right wall, and were going to proceed from there. THe problem is, Mr. Impatient decided to work towards the LEFT wall while I was working towards the right. Now we have about 1/4 of the room done, wall to wall, and now that we've tried to resume laying it the right way (one room length at a time, parallel to one wall), we're faced with having to shimmy ill-fitting boards into the gaps that were left from the previous days' work, and now we've run into an area that is NOT parallel to the wall. It's about 10 rows into the room from the right wall.

I don't know if I'm describing this well, but suffice it to say, we now have about 9 rows parallel to the wall in the master bedroom that are fine, but now that we're running into the work flowing out of the office, they are not in parallel to each other. We have spaces that boards won't fit into, and alignment problems are cropping up.

We've tried scraping a few boards, figuring we'd use a filler product where it looks ugly, and much of this is going to be under a massive king size bed, but for the sake of resale, and more importantly, PRIDE, we want to do this right before we bungle it up some more.

HELP!!??? Please?

Do we need to pry up some of what we've done and start over from a certain point? (Please oh please say NO.) My husband thought that cutting a horizontal line (perpendicular to our parallel wall) and 'starting over' from there would be ok, but ICK a big line in the middle of the floor? Gah.

We are welcome (and begging for) any and all advice.

Thanks in advance.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:42 pm 
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This is where precutting and dry fitting comes into play. And popping a line.

I don't quite understand if your working into the other room, or if the lengths of the boards flow into the other room.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:06 pm 
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Well, we did that for the office. Ran a line parallel to the wall, built out from there. Usually we dry fit a few boards at a time before we start spreading glue.

What's happened here is, we did the office just fine - it looks great. However, the lengths in the office run directly into the master room through a set of french doors. Those doors are usually wide open, and we did not want to put a threshhold in there and break up the two rooms. So about 6'wide of lengths run between the two rooms. THe difficulty came when we started the master bedroom, and we didn't just build it out from the wall as we did the office, as we were afraid it wouldn't true up with the work that was already overflowing into the bedroom when we got there. So we started in the middle, and built over TO the wall at the beginning of the room, and were going work our way back across, but we must've done something wrong there, because now we're out of whack.

Any suggestions on how to correct it, once you have rows that no longer are true parallel to each other?

if we hadn't run a whole course the width of the room, it wouldn't be so much of an issue I think. If you have a skewed line, just work your way over a line at a time and do the correction at the wall. Problem is, our rows are originating in another room in the middle of the bedroom, through the french doors, so as they start to slant, they're losing square. Eventually, mathematically, they would collide, but the room isn't big enough to actually see that. It's just getting seriously crooked and making it impossible to lay straight courses without having to cut angles in the planks. Ugly.


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 Post subject: URGENT - help needed on floor in progress out of square -
PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:08 pm 
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Any suggestions would be much appreciated; we have halted work on this floor until we find an appropriate resolution.

Thanks in advance!


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If it flows the lengths into the room, I start there, with a line popped through the doorway all the way across both rooms.

Keeping in on the F'n line, is very important!!

All I can suggest at this point is to bust up what is out of whack and get it back on. One little gap or bow, multiplies itself as you work across from there.


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Thanks, that's what we did, and it went well for about 75% of the room; now we're almost done and it's getting out of whack again, right in front of the door. AAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHH. :cry:

I'm starting to feel like Charlie Brown.

This has been so disappointing, after having laid 3 rooms perfectly, to screw it up in our master. GAH.


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Can you post a picture of the problem .. That would help ..


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JenCastro wrote:
Thanks, that's what we did, and it went well for about 75% of the room; now we're almost done and it's getting out of whack again, right in front of the door. AAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHH. :cry:

I'm starting to feel like Charlie Brown.

This has been so disappointing, after having laid 3 rooms perfectly, to screw it up in our master. GAH.


Where did you take the line from? (The floor already down or did you take a line from the other room you started? It's very possible that room is not parallel with the floor you have down


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