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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:56 pm 
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Hi All,
For the transition areas what are the strips called for each of these when purchasing?

- floor to fireplace tile (in front of fireplace) - this is installed lower than the h/w floor
- floor to bathroom tile. The tiler used an inclined concrete to the tile. I guess I have to chip this 1-2" away - ughhh.
- floor to two bedrooms with carpeting.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:56 pm 
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You may have to post pictures of the fireplace , & bath transitions. They dont sound typical, or I'm just having a hard time picturing them.

At the carpet edges I use an "end cap". Some manuf. may also call this a " baby threshold ", or a "square nose". You then stretch & secure the carpet to the edge of this transition.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:49 am 
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You probably could use the "baby threshold" that Floorologist recommends for the fireplace detail as well.
I am having a problem visualizing the "inclined concrete", that you have to chip out. A photo will help.
I have used t-moulds when abutting to carpet, but sometimes these will break so perhaps the baby threshold would be most appropriate.

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dennis wrote:
I have used t-moulds when abutting to carpet, but sometimes these will break so perhaps the baby threshold would be most appropriate.


If you use a t-mould at carpet, not only will it break when stepped on, but when the carpet is replaced, the carpet is locked down, under the t-mould. Baby thresholds are made for that application. The problem is most laminate installers dont know how to finish a carpet edge correctly, so it's easier to slap a t-mould over the top.

I know a wood installer that cuts the carpet net to the edge of the hardwood, and throws glue under the carpet edge :lol: Dont let him in my house !

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Ya, I too have seen a lot of transitions from floor covering to floor covering that appeared to be done by a shoemaker.
However, I haven't encountered any difficulties with t-moulds preventing future replacement of carpet.

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[quote="dennis"]
However, I haven't encountered any difficulties with t-moulds preventing future replacement of carpet

T-mouldings are not specified for carpet edges. When you try to pull up carpet with a t-mould , locked in a track, & the t-mould is smashed over the top of the carpet, that t-mould is going to be destroyed. Aside from the obvious problem of a t-mould breaking, when stepped on over carpet. Plus the fact that if the carpet is not stretched, locked onto tackstrip, and tucked to the edge of a baby threshold, it will lose it's stretch in the doorway.

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Oh well, now I gotta worry about some future possible carpet removal.
Maybe I will have to advise my clients to consider any future paint colours too when selecting their new floor.

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Exactly!!! Our job is to have the best finished product for what we are doing. What about undercutting door frames should I stop doing that in case the customer might go with a thinner floor sometime down the road. The only time I will use a t-molding at carpet is if there is a carpet metal to rest the T on which will support it so it doesn't snap on the grain.


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dennis wrote:
Oh well, now I gotta worry about some future possible carpet removal.
Maybe I will have to advise my clients to consider any future paint colours too when selecting their new floor.


Did I miss something here? I think your missing the point :roll: There's a little bit more to it than carpet removal. I'm just trying to explain why t-moulds are not specified for certain applications, and backing it up, with SEVERAL legit points. If you dont believe me , call the manuf. expert, or an inspector that's seen what I'm talking about.

And what in the world does what I said lead you into being sarcastic about advising your clients about paint colors. What am I missing here???

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jeff burstein wrote:
The only time I will use a t-molding at carpet is if there is a carpet metal to rest the T on which will support it so it doesn't snap on the grain.



That's a perfect application :lol:

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dennis wrote:
Oh well, now I gotta worry about some future possible carpet removal.
Maybe I will have to advise my clients to consider any future paint colours too when selecting their new floor.



Now there is a thinking man!

Always finding ways to diversify, to boost profits. :P

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Floorologist wrote:

T-mouldings are not specified for carpet edges. When you try to pull up carpet with a t-mould , locked in a track, & the t-mould is smashed over the top of the carpet, that t-mould is going to be destroyed. Aside from the obvious problem of a t-mould breaking, when stepped on over carpet.




Exactly. T molding is for same or close to the same height hard surface.
Carpet reducer, or sometimes called baby threshold or endcap, is used. Carpet is then stretched and tucked into the gully between the tackstrip and molding, with a little latex in the gully.

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[quote="Floorguy"]
Exactly. T molding is for same or close to the same height hard surface.
Carpet reducer, or sometimes called baby threshold or endcap, is used. Carpet is then stretched and tucked into the gully between the tackstrip and molding, with a little latex in the gully.


Thank You ! :D

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