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 Post subject: 3/4 hw on slab
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:53 am 
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Hello all,

My arch. gave the ok for putting 3/4 hw on slab. 520sq. 60% of the slab is new. 40% 45 yrs old. That 40% has one wall with a minority portion below grade. on a close bedrock ridge. House is about 40' feet deep (now), ridge about 50'. No moisture issues but the old (asbestos(?hmmm)/linoleum) tiles do show evidence of _something_ from over the years.

My concerns are:
1) Should the old tiles come off no matter what? Or can I leave them if
they are, say, in a levelable hollow?

2)The old slab is not terribly well laid. Ok, hollows I can handle but what about humps? What do I do rent a concrete grinder and generate some dust?

3) from reading other posts it seems there can be two layers of "wood" below the finish wood. Is that accurate? I was going to use a single course of either 1/2" or 3/4" t&g plywood sandwiched inbetween two 6mil poly sheets. Good? Or is another layer of would required. Would Aquabar or somesuch be better be better than poly? Seems poly has a perm of nil...

4) Couldn't find this easily in any other post but given there are no joists how does one secure the sub-floor/plywood to the concrete? concrete nail gun? Flat-head tapcons? (do they make those? Nice idea if they don't. Now that would be tight & time-consuming yes)

5) Should my hardwood cleats penetrate the concrete? For 3/4" hw and 3/4 cdx what length should they be?

thanks to all the posters and especially the responders.
Bryan

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:46 am 
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1. Remove them (for various reasons)
2.Fill in valleys with floor patch, grind high spots (several tools will work, from a 4" grinder to a large stand buffer with a grinding attachment)
3.Ok i think you got your info mix up and you should check out the NWFA website. It sound like your going to do a "nail" down as opposed to glue down. You only need one layer of 3/4" or thicker fastened down with tap-cons, powder-actuated fasteners, etc., but you'll need some sort of vapor barrier before that (MVP, cold-cut mastic [yuck], or one of many ant-fracture membranes available. I'm not sure about Aquabar, but if it's a anti-fracture membrane it will probably work. Once you have the vapor barrier down first, then you've fastened the plywood substrate, you can nail or staple your flooring with 11/2 inch fasteners.
4. Yes. As briefly described earlier. All of those should work. Countersink your tapcons. I use PL400 or some type of adhesive as well.
5. No. one and a half inch.

Sorry for the hurried responses, did what I could in the time I had.

Search the website more. These topics have thoroughly been described in earlier posts.

Someone else will have more time and give you a more detailed rundown, but this should get your research started.

Good Luck.


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 Post subject: thanks, S
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:07 pm 
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Thanks for taking the time and the clarification S,

I have continued perusing the copious amount of posts here and continue
to fill in the gaps as you said. 'scuse the pun...

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