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If you do decide to float the floor I would reccomend looking into a high end underlayment. A good sound deading underlayment makes a big diffrence in a floater. Still trying to figure out whats wrong with nailing a floor right into the thing.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:27 pm 
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Blackbird wrote:
Hi All,

I'm just about to start a major renovation on my apartment, and I'm a bit concerned with how the GC has decided to tackle the floor.

My apartment is on the 37th floor of a building with slab concrete floors. Right now there are 3/4" solid wood parquet tiles glued down with something that looks like tar. There are no loose tiles.

The GC wants to trowel self-leveling cement over the parquet, install a vapor barrier over that, and then nail the wood (probably engineered) into the whole mess. Should I be concerned with this method?

I've been thinking that it will probably be safer to pull up the parquet, level the concrete slab, and then float engineered wood. How do I deal with the black glue? Can self-leveling cement be poured directly on to it?

Thanks so much! This whole process has been terrifying, and I'll never get through it without great advice from the experts. Thanks again!!


Keywords: "over something that looks like Tar".. that may have asbestos in it so float a floor without use of a moisture barrier (cushion only). Not knowing how old this floor is, it is best to leave the existing floor there.
Under appliances and cabinets? Put the floating floor under the appliances and cut to front of cabinets after cabinets are installed.

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KevinD wrote:
If you do decide to float the floor I would reccomend looking into a high end underlayment. A good sound deading underlayment makes a big diffrence in a floater. Still trying to figure out whats wrong with nailing a floor right into the thing.


Kevin, I don't think nailing to parquet glued to concrete will work too well. The parquet has small filets and the fastener may hit more of the joints than the wood. I also think nailing to glued floor would result in the parquet lifting with changes in Relative Humidity and Wood Moisture Content...
What do you think?

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Ray Darrah wrote:
KevinD wrote:
If you do decide to float the floor I would reccomend looking into a high end underlayment. A good sound deading underlayment makes a big diffrence in a floater. Still trying to figure out whats wrong with nailing a floor right into the thing.


Kevin, I don't think nailing to parquet glued to concrete will work too well. The parquet has small filets and the fastener may hit more of the joints than the wood. I also think nailing to glued floor would result in the parquet lifting with changes in Relative Humidity and Wood Moisture Content...
What do you think?




Heck, let him go for it and then he can post back next year and tell us if it worked or not.

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That floor would have to do some seerious moving to pull itself loose after being nailed into an oak subfloor. If I were a pecimist and looked for anything and everything to go wrong I would never get out of bed. Heck did you put your seat belt on this morning on the ride to work? Granted the sucess of this is greatly dependedent on how well the parquet is atttached everywhere. O.k. second option would be cap with plywood and use a nice enginnered floor. Screw the floater imho.

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