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 Post subject: To remove or to sink...
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:30 pm 
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I am about done with demo - removing carpet, old foyer wood, linoleum, etc - and have one more question with that. The builder did not put the linoleum in the kitchen directly on the OSB subfloor. They put an 1/4 or 1/8 inch thick sheet of plywood down on the OSB (with millions of little staples about maybe 3/4 inch long) and then glued the linoleum to that. This has been good since I dont need to get rid of glue, but has presented 2 other challenges.

1. The cabinets were put in after the floor - so the thin plywood and linoleum both go under the cabinets. The linoleum is easy enough to cut off at the cabinet - the plywood not so much. I cant fit a chisel in under the toe kick, and the offset door jamb saw I have doesnt seem to do it. I have read about toe kick saws but it seems they scare the pee out of even pros. I would like to make that my last resort. Any ideas (besides removing cabinets of course)?

2. Those millions of staples I referred to above... when i rip up the plywood the staples actually rip through the plywood and stay in the OSB. I can remove them by sticking a screw driver and plyers in there... but it takes a LONG time. I am not one to cut corners and will put in the time if ness, but can I just get a nail set/hammer and drive the staples all the way into the OSB? Any downside to this? Will they squeak or work there way out over time? I hate to think they are under there but it would be MUCH easier to hammer 'em all down. Thoughts? Has anyone experienced this before?

Thanks once again!!!


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 Post subject: Re: To remove or to sink...
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:44 pm 
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Thoughts? Has anyone experienced this before?



To many times. Now you know what an installer has to go through on a daily basis. We have a myriad of tools , expensive tools to deal with those situations.

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 Post subject: Re: To remove or to sink...
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 Post subject: Re: To remove or to sink...
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:08 pm 
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I usually take all the staples out.My flooring supply companies have special staple removers that speed up the process and I also use end cut pliers to grab them and roll them out .The idea is not to leave anything behind that your flooring stapler / nailer can hit and deflect upon.

As for cutting plywood against a cabinet , the fastest tool is a sawzall. The idea is that you can bend the blade slightly as it cuts which usually gets me enough room to fit the blade in where it needs to be. i also have a fein saw that will do the job but the blades are expensive and don't last long. So I use the sawzall as it's faster and cheaper.

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 Post subject: Re: To remove or to sink...
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:19 pm 
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Hey Paul, did you see the new offset attachment for the sawsall?

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