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 Post subject: Older Hardwood Floors Without Tongue and groove
PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 10:16 am 
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You guys that deal with much older floors, say pre 1900, how thick were they originally? I'm sure they vary, but how about an estimate. 1 inch?

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 2:04 pm 
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Floors that were generally used as a finished product, attached directly to joists were commonly 7/8th inch thick, in my neighbourhood at least. I have encountered some old pine and fir that appeared to start out at 1 1/16th inch.

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:21 pm 
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Thanks Dennis:

How about some opinions on this? It's information I've been after for awhile...Not being very knowledgable in the area I didn't think I could put something decent together but it sure beats the #1 result in Google.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Ho ... h&aq=f&oq=

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How Many times Can My Floors Be Sanded?



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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 9:42 pm 
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I like that Ken, to the point and not to wordy either.

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:29 am 
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Thanks SP. nice to see ya back. Just behave...hehe.

I'd really like to hear if it needs improvement or accuracy. I don't know much about older floors. I'm just trying to make do.

Here's another new page I put together. This one is really out of my reach because I've only handled one floor (Florida don't have too many of these) like this.

Hardwood Floor Heating Vent Covers

and another one I put together the other day.

How Many Nails Or Staples For My Hardwood Floor Project?

...and if I'm bold enough I may try.

"Hardwood Floor Finish Differences - Glossy or Satin?"

Hey Keith, if you're looking. Any chance we can get the default link setup to show a regular blue link underlined?

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Here the older homes, pre 50's have no subfloor. The 33/32 x 2ΒΌ Oak, is nailed directly to the floor joists, that are on 16" centers.

No ground moisture barrier. If you crawl under the home, you can clearly see the boards are cupped, yet sanded flat on top and have been flat for years, as that is how they live and have always lived. Go under there and cover the crawl space for a new additional installation in another adjoining room and the existing boards crown. Hahahaha. Don't ask me how I know.


Now, old milled boards were dimensional cut... 1x was an actual 1" Maybe after sanding 7/8.

Some was 5/16 top nailed stuff.

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Ken, its fun to be back. Your not keeping tabs on my posts are ya? 8)

BTW thanks for putting my pics on your other site. Just talked to the General this morning, everythings still looking great he says. Cept for those crummy overlap stair nose Bruce sent.

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My other site? I can't keep track of what's going where thesedays. Oh now I know. Not the blogs.

Pre 1950 no subfloors?

Anybody else seeing this?

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I forgot Gary helped out with this awhile back. What a memory I have :o

http://hardwoodflooringtalk.com/discuss ... -times.htm

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Ken Fisher wrote:

Pre 1950 no subfloors?

Anybody else seeing this?



All day long, just like Perrys area. Mostly around the UA area where the ground was soft enough to do basements, even then many crawl spaces with no basements.

Then further out of that zone in the 60's they started usiung pine T&G on a 45. Always QS product though. Try and tell those owners what industry specs say about doing a replacement now and they look at you like yer an idiot cus some have been there without even a gap for up to 80 years.

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