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 Post subject: Oil over swedish? does that work?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:43 am 
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Last week I had a swedish red oak floor installed in my living and diningroom. It does not go with my existing floor at all. My floor is yellow/orange and has a think glossy finish. The new "swedish" floor is a thin laminate feeling satinish looking floor, kind of like the prefinish stuff. And quite pink compared to my old floor. After some research I think my floor is an oil modified urethane. Just a guess, it was new in 1992.
Question, can I have a new finish put on over the swedish which is SYNTEKO CLASSIC FINISH Semigloss #1637.
Will it still amber with the swedish underneath? Or do I have to remove it firsthttp://images2d.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53692%3Evq%3D3387%3E973%3E9%3A9%3EWSNRCG%3D3239%3A78%3B%3A55%3A5vq0mrjhttp://www.hardwoodflooringtalk.com/phpbb2/album_thumbnail.php?pic_id=50

Just to clarify- I like the amber colored floor that I have. I also like the glossy thick reflective finish that is on it. It is the new satin swedish I did not ask for. I tried to put in a picture, but I don't think worked.[img][url][/url] The picture is in the photo gallery-pictures for problem solutions go here


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:56 am 
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You will need to sand to bare wood, to get rid of the yellow/orange color, or you will just be coating over it with a clear coat.


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Hey Karla, you can put a standard oil-mod on the prefished floor you recently had installed. It will not give you the exact look you want, but given time, and provided it does not have UV blockers in it, will eventually mellow to a sorta amber/orange look. Will never duplicate the other existing floor though.
Only way you will achieve a match is to refinish both floors, sry.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:11 pm 
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Is the new "swedish" floor you just had put in a factory pre finished floor or did the installer sand and finish it in your home. If it was sanded and finished in your home, the installer/finisher should have told you the old and new would not match. One or the other will need to be re sanded and re finished. The thing about refinishing is that it's difficult to match exactly a new floor and an old one. I usually recommend all the floors get refinished if a client wants a new floor to match up with and old one. You can still achieve the look of an older OMU finished floor while still using today's more modern finishes. The floor would need to be stained with a very thinned out mix of golden oak and neutral. After dry, then a coat of either BONA DriFast OMU sealer or dewaxed shellac ( US sealer ). Follow that up with a couple of coats of BONA Traffic in semi-gloss or Basic's Street Shoe in gloss if you must have a gloss finish, which isn't recommended.


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The floor was installed and finished on site.
Are you saying I can get the look of the older floor, but only after re-finishing all the floors at the same time?
Is there no tint that can be added to another topcoat?


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Are you saying I can get the look of the older floor, but only after re-finishing all the floors at the same time?


What I said was,

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The thing about refinishing is that it's difficult to match exactly a new floor and an old one. I usually recommend all the floors get refinished if a client wants a new floor to match up with and old one.


So, I did not say it could not be done. I said it was difficult. To achieve an absolute perfect match, the floors should all be refinished with the same finish products at the same time. However, if one does not do this, then the client needs to accept that the new floor may not match the existing floor perfectly. Depending on the condition and appearance of the older, existing floor, a new floor may be able to match or not.

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Is there no tint that can be added to another topcoat?


One can tint a waterbased urethane but it still will not look like an older OMU finished floor. Been there, done that. Once a floor has been sealed and finished, changing the appearance/color is just not possible without a complete re-sand.


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New floors and old floors refinished will look very close to one another, but not always possible to achieve the same look.


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