Amish made hardwood

It is currently Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:26 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: How would a pro do this?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:22 pm 
Offline
Newbie Contributor

Joined: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:24 am
Posts: 29
Location: Midland, MI
Looking at the picture below my goal is to start at the stair nose and work my way back through the bedroom. I have an area that can’t be finished yet so here are my questions.

Question 1: I want to partially tear out the carpet in the bedroom on the left but I'm not sure how to leave the wood so that I can finish it up at a later date. I don't want to put in a threshold at the door and want to make it continuous. How do I do this without making it look choppy at the door entrance?

Question 2: The stair nose has a groove for the tongue. How do you work to the stair nose and get the right gap so you don't have to cut the piece next to the nose? Do you face nail/glue the stair nose then put the 2nd strip in the groove and then flip the following strip and run the other way so that I can continue on though the other rooms.

I have read numerous times in here that you should always start at the stair nose and work you way back but how you can do this without flipping/cutting the tongue off and then continuing on? One of my options is to measure and start at the doorway directly across from the nose. Go from the doorway to the nose and then flip the next piece at the doorway and continue on the other direction into the bedroom. I want this to look as professional as possible.

I hope this made sense…if not, I’ll try to clarify.

Image


Top
 Profile  
 

 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:36 pm 
Offline
Prized Contributor

Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2004 5:44 am
Posts: 3509
Location: Austin
Spline/slip tongue the board going next to the stairnose.

In that room, move everything over to one side of the room and run the wood on through. Put a sacraficial boards from your cull pile where you stop so the edge doesn't get damaged, until you can finish the room.

_________________
When you want it done WRIGHT
www.AustinFloorguy.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:58 am 
Offline
Newbie Contributor

Joined: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:24 am
Posts: 29
Location: Midland, MI
Quote:
Spline/slip tongue the board going next to the stairnose.


How do I do this exactly? Hate to be a noob but I am.

Would my best bet on the part finish room be to bite the bullet and just go ahead and do it now or should I wait until after I remove all the drywall and insulation. I'm going to gut that room and was afraid to damage the floor later on. If I can safely cover the floor I would rather do that and complete the floor now. I kind of hate the idea of running the boards’ wild and finishing it later (next summer).

A couple more noob questions. What is the difference between red rosin paper and 15# roofing felt? Do I need a 6 mill moisture barrier on the second story on a bi-level house. I can't see a reason for it but maybe there is. I'm using BR-111 Triangulo Tiete Chestnut (3/8 engineered)


EDIT: I had a brain fart and now I understand what you meant by putting the stuff on one side, running it through and having the last board as a sacrifice. I almost think I'm better of just doing the whole thing now and protecting it from construction later.

Thoughts and suggestions welcomed.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:27 am 
Offline
Newbie Contributor

Joined: Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:39 pm
Posts: 37
Location: Port Orchard, WA
To make the spline, measure the tongue and double the width. Take a scrap piece of wood (or two) from the floor and with a table saw cut a piece out of it that size. Glue it with a good wood glue into both grooves, or glue it into one side to give yourself a tongue to slide into the other groove.

The experts will chime in here, I hope, to give any corrections, but I'm quite sure this is the way it's done: it's the way I'm going to be doing it here shortly (unless corrected). I'm betting you'd put a small amount of glue on both sides of the spline, as the nosing can use the extra support.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:21 pm 
Offline
Newbie Contributor

Joined: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:24 am
Posts: 29
Location: Midland, MI
Thanks on the spline answer.



Could someone answer theses last two questions please?

1) Red rosin or 15# felt paper? Is one better then the other?

2) Should I put a moisture barrier between the floors even though the floor below is living space?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:10 pm 
Offline
Semi Newbie Contributor

Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:53 am
Posts: 88
Chopper wrote:
Thanks on the spline answer.



Could someone answer theses last two questions please?

1) Red rosin or 15# felt paper? Is one better then the other?

2) Should I put a moisture barrier between the floors even though the floor below is living space?


1. did you understand why floorguy stated that?

2. it matters not what paper is used.

3. the paper will act as a barrier as well.

4. are the lines in your drawing the direction the flooring is going to be laid?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:11 pm 
Offline
Semi Newbie Contributor

Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:27 pm
Posts: 54
Location: PA
Quote:
Question 1: I want to partially tear out the carpet in the bedroom on the left but I'm not sure how to leave the wood so that I can finish it up at a later date. I don't want to put in a threshold at the door and want to make it continuous. How do I do this without making it look choppy at the door entrance?


We encounter this exact situation sometimes - customer wants to do hall & one room now, the other room later as they can afford it.
What we do is use short boards in the doorway area & a temp transition strip between rooms. That way we can easily pull them out and finger in longer boards when they're ready to run the wood into the next room. You don't have anything jutting into the next room that way, and there's little waste of wood.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:48 pm 
Offline
Prized Contributor

Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:26 am
Posts: 1195
Location: Virginia
Agreed, blind nailing those boards with a finish nailer will make the replacement job easier.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:23 pm 
Offline
Newbie Contributor

Joined: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:24 am
Posts: 29
Location: Midland, MI
Quote:
4. are the lines in your drawing the direction the flooring is going to be laid?


Yes that is the direction.

Quote:
We encounter this exact situation sometimes - customer wants to do hall & one room now, the other room later as they can afford it.
What we do is use short boards in the doorway area & a temp transition strip between rooms. That way we can easily pull them out and finger in longer boards when they're ready to run the wood into the next room. You don't have anything jutting into the next room that way, and there's little waste of wood.


That makes sense to me. Honestly I think I'm going to just finish it off all the way within a week after doing the rest. I could finger in some boards but it would leave a lot of joints in the same area and I don't want that. I'm very anal so to leave it half done would bother me too much.

I will post some pics when I'm done. Thanks for the help guys!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group

phpBB SEO