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 Post subject: Help with a Recommended Glue
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 7:54 pm 
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I have been unable to find the glue that the mfg. of my engineered 9/16 Santos Mahogany recommends for my hi-rise application, DriTac 1001. No one in the Houston area carries this (that I can find). The reason I was looking for this glue is because of the sound dampening (which the high-rise I live in requires), as well as the moisture control.

I've been to Home Depot and Lowes, but all they seem to carry are brands that no one I know of has heard of or cares for (Roberts, Mohawk). I was hoping someone could recommend something comparable of excellent quality that does at a minimum, moisture control and sound control (very important), and that I would be able to find in the Houston area.

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 Post subject: Re: Help with a Recommended Glue
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:45 pm 
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Some of the members here have more expertise with adhesives than me but to start with , I would say look at products from Bostiik , Sika and Mapei .they all have a variety of adhesives ,some of which are specific to your needs.

Chances are, there is a flooring supply company near you or one that can ship pro grade products to you.

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 Post subject: Re: Help with a Recommended Glue
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 4:33 am 
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Give a real hardwood pro in the Houston area a call.

Or call this guy...hoping the info is up to date.

Erik Landry
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PH: (201) 783-2584
E-mail: elandry@DriTac.com

I don't see why he can't head you in the right direction.

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 Post subject: Re: Help with a Recommended Glue
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I had one client order Ultra-Set Single Step off of amazon believe it or not.

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 Post subject: Re: Help with a Recommended Glue
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 6:32 pm 
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I'm really having a hard time choosing these adhesives based on sound control, I'm wondering how much of a difference there is in these "all-in-one" or 3-in-1 adhesives. I'm avoiding laying down an underlayment for a sound barrier because so many floors here have that and they're all squishy feeling when walked on.

So, does anyone have experience as to how much "sound control" these adhesives actually do? I see IIC and STC ratings, and all I know is the higher the number, the better the sound control. Yet, I'm not sure if that is enough to replace a sound barrier or how much sound dampening that actually does.

I bought a few cans of Roberts 1530 since they're numbers were higher than most others, and Home Depot had it available. I.e., IIC 71, STC 67, dIIC 22. But I wonder if I should have gone w/ DriTac 1001 as I keep hearing the "professional grade" claims. Can anyone comment between the two?


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 Post subject: Re: Help with a Recommended Glue
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 6:34 pm 
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Ken Fisher wrote:
I don't see why he can't head you in the right direction.


Thanks, I had actually already contacted him. They only have one distributor in Houston, several hours drive for me which didn't end well. Trying not to do that again.


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 Post subject: Re: Help with a Recommended Glue
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I'm avoiding laying down an underlayment for a sound barrier


Any thoughts on cork? It's stiff enough where you won't get the squishy effects providing the subfloor is flat. A 1/4" material will work well, but sound deadening is more about neighbors below. I'm surprised nothing has been mentioned about what the condo/highrise requires.

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 Post subject: Re: Help with a Recommended Glue
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 7:50 pm 
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What the highrise requires is "an acoustical cushion, separation, or sub-floor
beneath the uncushioned flooring..." However, their rules are non-specific when it comes to the products to use. They just care that we do something to minimize the noise for those around us. They do not keep up with the technology, and so these new adhesives count as a separation and acoustical cushion.

I thought about cork, but 2 layers of glue (one under the cork and the other between the planks) just seems to expensive in glue. Adding another 1/4" in height will make the tile floors transition unevenly w/ the wood too.

And it doesn't seem right to use a sound control glue w/ rubber chips on top of cork. I can see that making sense on concrete, but rubber chips on top of cork? Would you then revert back to a normal type glue for that?


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 Post subject: Re: Help with a Recommended Glue
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 11:01 am 
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Scroll down and read the TDS thoroughly; http://www.bostik-us.com/market-product ... singlestep

You can always float engineered if the manufacture says so. I like sound solutions best.

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