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 Post subject: Hardwood over a concrete hearth bed
PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:52 am 
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Good day all,
I'm looking for suggestions for installing 3/4 x 5" Acacia hardwood over a transitional area of an old concrete fireplace hearth bed surrounded by 5/8 plywood subfloor.

Location is in southern Ontario, Canada. The room is is over a heated crawl space, the hearth bed is a thick pour of Portland cement into a cradle suspended between joists. 12" x 72"

Problem is the pour is near level with the subfloor and doesn't allow installation of 1/4 or less plywood underlayment

This area is is about 8" forward and parallel to my starting wall.
Some thoughts:
- fill the void with felt, float the hardwood glueing the tongues
- trowel level with thinset, cover with poly vapour barrier then float the floor as above
- trowel level with thinset then directly glue ( concerned with curing time and moisture)
Your thoughts are greatly appreciated

Steve from Canada
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 Post subject: Re: Hardwood over a concrete hearth bed
PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 12:12 pm 
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I'd use some self leveling compound or a good cement patch as they set and dry faster and are a higher strength (psi) than thinset. , then use Pl Premium in that area.
But out here in my area theres a code of 18" out from the fireplace which needs to be some sort of tile, brick or stone.

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 Post subject: Re: Hardwood over a concrete hearth bed
PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 12:23 pm 
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Same here for code (wood burning) but I'm converting to gas insert.

What leveler would you suggest, we have a high cement content generally for ceramic or a high poly content used for vinyl .

Thanks for the input.


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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 12:26 pm 
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I use Mapei products.

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 Post subject: Re: Hardwood over a concrete hearth bed
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Update:
As suggested, I used a good floor lever recommended for parquet flooring. I waited for a good cure then PL'd that section of floor in place.

BTW I wouldn't recommend the use of PL Premium for installations as it's near impossible to remove from the surface once it sets.


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all urethane adhesive is near impossible to remove of a finished floor.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:02 am 
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I just ran into the same thing. I used a self leveler then used PL Subfloor, as I usually glue the last few rows anyways it was nothing to worry about


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 Post subject: Re: Hardwood over a concrete hearth bed
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:37 pm 
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StevenPorter wrote:
Update:
As suggested, I used a good floor lever recommended for parquet flooring. I waited for a good cure then PL'd that section of floor in place.

BTW I wouldn't recommend the use of PL Premium for installations as it's near impossible to remove from the surface once it sets.



That was only what, a 1' x 4' area? lol Try gluing in 1,200 ft in a house with urethane adhesives. Due diligence means cleaning up after yourself every day. Making walk out paths with the cardboard or paper. It ain't that hard.

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