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 Post subject: Gap between floor types ... different heights
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:01 pm 
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I really hope you guys/gals can help me out with this. Basically what is going on... I tore up the carpet in my dining room because well.. carpet in a dining room with kids? I did not realize that between the dining room and kitchen there was once a wall where there is not one now. I laid down vinyl tile in the dining room but have a gap of 4-6 inches that I can't cover because the tile wont stick due to the floor being a mess there from where the wall once was. I need something wide like that to transition from the higher up kitchen floor to the lower dining room floor. I have been looking for reducers of that width but have yet to come across any. Does anyone here have any ideas, links, etc? Any help is appreciated alot!


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Tile? What kind of tile? VCT, ceramic???? Tile to wood? Be more specific.

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Have a local lumber yard that has a millwork shop make you up something, then stain it.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:34 pm 
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first of all you should take a photo ! how long is it ? if they are different heights what was there before taking it up? please awnser these questions and i will get back to you


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:21 pm 
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Its vinyl tile over hardwood in the dining room now. There used to be carpet in there that was high enough that the floors were even. Over the kitchen floor is vinyl planks ( that simulated wood stuff. Looks like real wood but is actually vinyl.) They are over a subfloor of.. I guess plywood (?) which in turn I ASSUME is over the hardwood thats in the rest of the house. This subfloor makes the height of the kitchen floor higher than the dining room floor. As for length.. Im not really sure exactly how long. Its the length of the room which I would estimate about 11 foot.

Here is a picture of it. Hopefully the pic works.

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Man, putting a threshold of ANY type across this space is not gonna win any design awards. Two different floors, at two different heights, with some form of reducer that isnt going to match either floor, I just dont know what to say.
Personally, I would think long and hard about this before doing anything. Are you going to be in the house for some number of years? Do you entertain a lot, and if so is it done in this area?
Is there any way to fit one new floor throughout the space into current or near future budget?

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wow, theres not a lot to be relistic that you can do. as dennis said think long term.


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I would try what Jerry suggested,( have a lumber yard mill something up), or maybe a cabinet shop. Take the picture with some measurements.

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We are going to be in this house for maybe another 2 years. Possibly moving at anytime before then. We are really trying to get the house into sellable shape right now. Now something I could probably do is pull up the vinyl planks in the kitchen and lay down the same vinyl tile thats in the dining room so the floors at least match. Then when I find a place to make me a reducer for the space I can stain it to match those floors.

We don't entertain alot thankfully. I originally wanted to get the hardwood sanded, stained, and finished and actually had it set up one summer to do so. But it ended up falling through and we used the money we saved up for it for other things that needed doing.

IF I managed to find a place to make me a reducer that would work, and changed the flooring to match each other, do you think that would work out ok in the looks department? I really don't want to have to put carpet down in the dining room again, because the next family who gets this house will probably end up doing the same thing I did.. pull it up and discover a mess in that area.


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Well here is what I would do. Run the vinyl tile (one on right) to the plank if you have any or access to some. They are both vinyl products, yes? Get some primer, cement patch and appropiate additive for the patch. Cut a notch in the corner of a trowel the thickness of the vinyl tiles...the one on the right. Primer it. Then feather out the floor to the other one...might have to have two notches for two thicknesses of vinyl. The notch keeps the patch the correct level to it butts up evenly.

Dry lay the tiles to the vinyl plank and make a cut where it will overlap the planks evenly. The trace cut to the plank. Pull it out and glue that sucker in there.

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I glanced at that picture and thought the parquet was real !! ( Maybe cause I assumed your on a hardwood forum ??? :oops: I must be out to lunch !!! lol

Shows me for glancing. Ya, Do what Stephen said ! Done deal :lol:

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OOPS, I meant the tile on the left. The one on the left is the tile (parquet), the one on the right is the plank, yes?

I better edit that. :oops:

Howard...I though the same thing too. lol

Darn I cannot edit it anymore..oh well.

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Is that a maple floor under there??? :shock: If so shame on you for covering that up with vinyl !! :P :cry:

Am I imagining it or is the top layer (maple?) going right over top of the subfloor planks of the same width? :shock: :shock: :shock:

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That IS lick & stick over hardwood strip :cry:
Am I hallucinating ? Or is that vinyl plank over hardwood also ? . Is the hardwood changing directions at the parquet ??? No, that must be plywood ? Plywood over hardwood ? :? :lol:

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I always assumed the hardwood floor was oak. I'm not sure what is really is though.

Under the darker vinyl tile is hardwood, under the lighter vinyl planks is a plywood subfloor. I assume there is hardwood under that also because the WHOLE house has this hardwood flooring. Most of it is in good condition ( just in need of sanding, finishing) but some has water stains on it. At one point I was going to get the whole house refinished. But that ended up falling through (the mom and pop company we hired went out of business I think without even calling us to let us know)

Now.. I have considered the idea of seeing what is under that plywood subfloor. But its problematic I believe because you have all the fixtures over top of it (cabinets and stuff) and honestly I don't KNOW alot about this stuff. And I really don't know the condition of the hardwood under the subfloor. In my dreams it would be in as good a condition as the rest of the house and I could easily drop the fixtures down and have the floors the same height. But dreams are rarely a reality.

When we first moved in this house there was wall to wall carpeting which I did not really like. I have always preferred the look of wood. One of my kids cut a hole in the carpet and I peeked under it to see what was there and LO and behold... Hardwood!!!!!! So I proceeded to start tearing up carpet (carpet was a mess anyway so no loss there) and found that the previous owner had also painted without covering the hardwood to protect it. I have spent hours scrubbing paint off these hardwood floors.

I don't know why there is plywood subflooring on top of the hardwood in the kitchen... IF there is hardwood under it (I assume there is.) But I am scared to get into the project it would become to find out. Maybe we can hire a proffesional at some point to take a look or something.

The only reason I have put the vinyl tile in the dining room is because there is ALOT of water staining on the hardwood flooring in that room. The rest of the house the hardwood is left bare.

In all reality.. though this house looked good when we bought it , it was actually a mess. We have fixed alot of stuff that should not have needed fixing. Lesson Learned here, first time home buyers all that ya know?


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