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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:38 pm 
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I just finished laying an engineered floating bamboo floor in my living room area. It is a click together system over a gypcrete subfloor with a 1/8" padded underlayment. Unfortunately as my wife walked across the floor I noticed it sagged in some areas ( she's only 105 lbs incidently). The attached photo shows the problem areas. In area "A" the floor is literally suspended in air about 1/8" where it meets the fireplace tiles. The tiles are not set, so I thought maybe I could slide some roofers felt underneath or something. However, area "B" also sinks quite a bit and there is no way to get under that. I don't mind that the floor sags a bit, but will this pose problems down the road? Fortunately, It is a click together floor, so I do have the option of unclicking it all and fixing the uneven spots. If this is recommended how should I fix it?.....Pull the underlayment as well and use floor leveler over the gypcrete? Lay some roofers felt over problem areas?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:20 pm 
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Hmmm?


Looks like you still have "wet" trades working in the home, to add moisture to the interior enviorment. I see expansion in the near future!!!


Did you check the subfloor for flatness specs, 1/8" in 6' before you started the installation?


It could eventually break the tongue off as it flexes over time.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:48 pm 
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I'm not sure what is meant by "wet" trades? The only other thing we have going on is retiling around the fireplace. Will a small tiling job like that add so much moisture?

As for the 1/8" over 6' Rule. I did check the floor with a 8' straightedge. It looked pretty good to me. However, it seems at this point I must have overlooked something. Now I need to figure out what to do about it. I would prefer not pull up everything, but if that's what it takes, I guess I have to deal with it. Could someone please suggest the best/easiest solution?


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You may ( a possibility ) have something under the floor or pad causing a small bump which will cause the floor around it to flex. It happened to me. I didn't see a spacer and layed the pad and floor over it; and it was a glue together floater! :o The only choice I had was to remove the flooring as well as I could to that point and reassemble.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:55 am 
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Thanks Gary,

In prblem area "A" I think the floor slopes toward the fireplace. To be honest I don't think I checked this area for level. I checked a few areas and assumed it was all good. Learning my lesson the hard way on that assumption :wink: . Thank god it's a click system. I think I will unclick it all this weekend and try to determine exactly what is going on. I'll let you know if I spot any spacers, but I had a second set of eyes (the wife) helping, so I doubt if we both would have missed something like that.

Assmuning there is a slope toward the fireplace, is it ok to level it out with roofing shingles or felt (I have seen this mentioned in other posts)? If so can I just lay it over the underlayment, or should I pull the underlayment as well?
Or am I better off to spread out some floor leveler?


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I wonder when it's "unclicked" it will click again? Some of those milled systems break(fiber board) down if you've worked with it too much. Careful as you go.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:46 pm 
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I had the same concern Ken, but this product seems to pretty robust. I "clicked" and "unclicked" boards up to 4 times and couldn't notice any difference from a new board.


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Thanks again for all the input from everyone. I pulled the floor this weekend and after careful analysis found that the problem was actually a hump in the floor. It ran almost the entire length of the room (4' feet out and parallel to the fireplace in picture above). When I balanced an 8' straightedge on the peak there was only about 3/8" gap on each end. Can't believe such a small hump caused the floor to get so messed up.

Long story short, I rented a floor grinder and knocked down the hump. The dust it created was absolutely unbelievable and hauling it up a flight of stairs was no picnic either.

Everything is much better now. Area "A" is perfectly flat, but there's still a little bit of flex in area "B" of the picture. Hopefully it's acceptable. I'm not about to get the grinder again :shock: .

I'm crossing my fingers I don't find similar issues in either of the 2 bedrooms I haven't even started yet


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