Hi there,

I am interested in finishimg my white oak floor with Bona Naturale.

Does anyone know where I could purchase this on line? Or buy it direct from somewhere in Michigan?

I have only been able to find one on line store that sells it, and they want 112.00 bucks a gallon.

Thanks.

$112 is about the going price. I would buy it from wherever you found it online.

yep its going to be over 110.00 no matter where you getit from. Look into basic's super matte its closer to 90 bucks.

OK thanks much.

On another note, I just read the MSDS for the Bona Naturale Universal Hardener, it lists both ALIPHATIC POLYISOCYANATE and HEXAMETHYLENE-1,3-DIISOCYANATE as main ingredients.

I am kind of hesitant to put cyanide onto my floor...any thoughts on that subject (since we are thinking about putting this into our home)?

Does the hardener become completely inert once crued? Or is there any possibility of out gassing over the years?

Maybe I would better served if I used something like Basic Street shoe or another water based product instead? Or even a cheaper product like Pro Finish by Parks – the Home Depot stuff? If I have health concerns?

cyanate does not equal or even resemble cyanide. (other than in spelling). Cyanate resins are one of many products that when assembled, make up any urethane finish.

Well, Cyanate is an oxidized form of cyanide. so yes the two compounds are different and cyanates are apparently not as toxic as cyanides, but there are some legitimate concrns...

The CDC claims that it it fairly toxic stuff: http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/isocyanates/

Although there is not much about outgassing on their site, I think I would be more worried about sanding the stuff than anything else, if I ever have to refisish the floors at some point. But I can't seem to find any data or studies on the product once it has cured.

If your so worried about chemicals and plastic finishes go with the Rubio Monocoat Works great with white oak.

Thanks will check it out.

Only one question, does it amber or change color over time?

I don't think the product will, it's the wood that patina's. These kinda products feed the wood not just cover it up. No checking of finish, no VOC's all natural, easy touch up. It's as green as green can be.

Thanks very much just checked out their web site very interesting product.

Just curious, is there any product similar to this one sold in the big box stores like Home Depot or Lowes?

Not that I know of.

Just curious, under normal foot traffic in a home, how long can one expect Monocoat to last to repel dirt and spills, before a recoat is needed?

I am curious because that coat is so thin and only 1 coat, seems like it would be quicker to wear off than some of the other products I have been reading about.

I've heard of it lasting more than five years with no issues. As in any finish it depends on the amount of traffic and how well you take care of your floor. Just checked a sample out we did on one and (5 weeks old) it repelled water with no spotting.

The Rubio penetretes and bonds with the wood itself as you may have read. After you feel it needs a new coat then simply screen and recoat, esay smeasy. Not a full sanding procedure. Seen some plastic finishes not even last five years.

Thanks,

I think I am leaning towards these new types of oil finishes now because of their green nature compared to the poly urethane finishes.

I guess the most similar product to the Rubio would be the Osmo polyx-oil - would that be correct?

Also, there is only one thing that concerns me in using a penetrating oil finish like these...most of the floor we are covering is white oak installed 52 years ago when the house was built, and there is an area by a formerly outside door which has some ringed dark stains by the door on the floor, about the size of a quarter or half dollar. They are more noticeable in the summer during high humidity than when it is dry outside so for some reason during high humidity they show more - on a real humid day, they almost look like fresh stains even though the wood was stained decades ago - very strange.

So I am assuming these stains are either water and/or salt stains from foot traffic from the outside over the years (we live in Michigan and use lots of salt in the Winter). We also have a few pet stains on the floor from cat urine. So after sanding, even if these rings and stains are removed and I can't see them, when I put down the oil, I am wondering if the wood portion that has been stained will accept the oil at a different rate or concentration or amount, compared to the non stained areas, and maybe the rings will show again after the finish is applied? Any thoughts on that?