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 Post subject: Bamboo over Concrete
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:40 pm 
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Good Afternoon Ladies and Gents!

I am installing a bamboo floor over concrete slab. Here is what I was thinking:

1/2" exterior plywood glued and screwed directly onto slab, shimmed where required.
Underlayment (vapor + cushion type?)
Bamboo floor nailed or stapled into the plywood

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Yanchi 5/16" x 3 3/4" x 37 3/4" horizontal, carbonized, dark T&G

Slab - concrete slab, relatively flat but not perfect. We live in a country where there's really no winter, and haven't had any problems with moisture underneath the tile or previous carpet.

Is 1/2" suitable for this use? Are there nails/staples that will accommodate this? I want to use 1/2" to minimize the height of the floor compared to the bathroom (existing).

Thanks for any advise!


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 Post subject: Re: Bamboo over Concrete
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:48 pm 
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if you want to minimize the height why not glue direct to slab?

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 Post subject: Re: Bamboo over Concrete
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:57 pm 
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Exactly, I would go with a 5/8 bamboo and either glue it down or float it.


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 Post subject: Re: Bamboo over Concrete
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:01 pm 
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I have just been reading about the glue down directly.

I have already purchased the 5/16", it was leftover from a friends project and happens to be enough for my floor.

I don't want to float it because I don't like the clicking/loose feeling underfoot. Will the 5/16" be OK to glue down directly, using one of the glue/sealers mentioned around, urethane something or others? I may have a problem finding that here. It will also then be a bit low!


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 Post subject: Re: Bamboo over Concrete
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:18 pm 
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Roberts 1408 seems to be what I can get here in 3 gallon sizes, $100.


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 Post subject: Re: Bamboo over Concrete
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Nothing wrong with Roberts 1408 for installing Bamboo.

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I would not use roberts carpet seam tape let alone their wood adhesive. :mrgreen:

But thats just me. I like to stay away from the carpet/ make any type adhesive manufacturers.

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 Post subject: Re: Bamboo over Concrete
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I know I dont have to tell ya Roberts doesn't make their wood glue :P But hey I understand , it's not my 1st choice. I'd rather use glue with another label on it, and a different color too :mrgreen: Just seems like Roberts shouldn't be playing "wood guys".

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 Post subject: Re: Bamboo over Concrete
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:21 pm 
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Thanks for all the help so far!

One of the perks of living on an island...don't really have much choice. Let's say it's not Roberts, but another manufacturers competing product! :roll:

Can it work for 5/16" bamboo on concrete? Or would I be better putting 1/2" ply down and then nailing/stapling to that?

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No problem at all using that glue, it' a 100% urethane solids adhesive, dont let SP mess with you, cause he doesnt like Roberts carpet seaming tape, lol.

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 Post subject: Re: Bamboo over Concrete
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It looks to be a Build Direct product and I see nothing that mentions the ability to staple or nail, only gluedown, possibly because it's a strand bamboo?

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 Post subject: Re: Bamboo over Concrete
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yes, it looks to be similar to:
http://www.builddirect.com/Bamboo-Floor ... 52521.aspx

but its not quite as dark, same product dimensions etc though.

ok so glue it is.

so two options:

1) installing 1/2" plywood to "level" the floor and then glue over
2) float the floor using self-leveling concrete then glue directly to this using the Roberts 1408

The 9mm glued directly down would be a little low ironically.

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remember the glue itself will raise it about another 1/8" or so.

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 Post subject: Re: Bamboo over Concrete
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(stupid question alert) I'm guessing there is no need for an underlayment with the glue?


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 Post subject: Re: Bamboo over Concrete
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Floorologist wrote:
No problem at all using that glue, it' a 100% urethane solids adhesive, dont let SP mess with you, cause he doesnt like Roberts carpet seaming tape, lol.



Oh Howard...how you know me already. :oops: I like their new power streatcher though. :mrgreen: I have one but it collects lots of dust..

Oh yes back to the topic. How do you plan to protect the plywood underlayment from the slabs moisture vapor emissions?

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