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 Post subject: 15 lb Asphalt Paper Rippling
PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 5:27 pm 
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Ok - here's one more observation that I have found on my hardwood install. Just curious if anyone else has observed the same thing.

When I roll out the asphalt paper on my plywood subfloor it is perfectly flat. I staple it down. Next day, the asphalt paper is no longer flat - it bubbles up (as much as 3/4" - 1") all over the place. I am doing one bedrom at a time and it has happened consistently in every single room. I am on my second roll of paper - same thing.

To fix it, I removed the staples, stretched the paper out a bit by skidding on it with my running shoes and then re-staple. That takes care of it. In the latest bedroom, I only stapled a few spots until the next day when I stapled it down more securely.

I can't figure out what the phenomenon is that causes this. Anyone else experience the same thing?

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gained moisture and swelled.

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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 9:36 pm 
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Just install it upside down. No need to staple.


Moisture, Ray?


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That used to be a problem for us on new-construction jobs. We'd get carried away with putting more paper down than we'd cover in a day, and come back the next day to just what you described - a big wrinkled mess.
We fixed the problem by just not putting down more paper than we'll cover in day. :wink:

Chuck, what do you mean by installing the paper upside down? I'm trying to figure out how you'd even roll it out that way?

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Yeah. It's a real "gordian knot" style of brain teaser. :D

You roll out a shot and then flip it over. It takes about 20 seconds to reverse a long one. You wind up getting back that time and then some by not having to mess with the felt any further.


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LOL, Chuck, Yes, I guess flippin it would do it.

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Around here, I think it expands from temp variations. I've patterned vinyl for a long time with felt paper, and it isn't uncommon to see the paper grow, after it's unrolled. I do the same as Chuck, but use my 18" lino dolly at the wall to hold the felt, as I pull it off the roll. No flipping.


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Tried flipping the asphalt paper as Chuck suggested, along side of rolling it out the "standard" way and got the same ripples by the next day. :? Flipping the asphalt paper seems to marginally reduce the rippling, but not significantly.

In my case, the rippling can't be due to temperature differences - the roll has been sitting for a month in the room where it was laid. :)

Gains moisture? Hmmm. Interesting - but it seems a bit difficult to believe that asphalt impregnated paper would gain enough moisture to cause it to blister like this. :)

I suspect there is a logical explanation. I just can't seem to put my fingers on it right now. If anyone else has an idea, I am all ears!


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Has it been stored standing on end? I'll bet a dollar it is egged out.


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Hi Chuck,

The roll was stored on end.

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