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 Post subject: Anderson Hickory Forge w/ 12lbs moisture
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:40 pm 
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I got a quote from an installer in Central Florida (Summerfield, next to The Villages) to put in 1100sf of Anderson Hickory Forge engineered hardwood. The issue is they did a moisture test (not Calcium Chloride) and found 10lbs in the bedroom and 12lbs in the living room. They used a large black box with an LED read out, not sure what it's called.

They want to glue down w Taylor MS Plus 3/1. They also say they guarantee it for 25 years. I have a hard time believing that Taylor or Anderson would warranty their products with that high of a moisture level but the installer says they have installed same wood / glue combo many times with same moisture levels.

It's hard to find exact warranty wording on Taylor and Anderson sites but the Anderson install guide has a section that says "over 3lbs do NOT install".

Any thoughts? Would laminate w/ float be a better option? Does anyone have any experience with Anderson and / or Taylor MS Plus?


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Tony


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 Post subject: Re: Anderson Hickory Forge w/ 12lbs moisture
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:34 am 
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Tony, I do have experience with the Taylor MS Plus glue. Used it in my home to glue down Shaw engineered floor in my basement. I like it. I would make sure they use the trowel recommended by Taylor. If not you won't get the moisture inhibiting protection from the glue. It will use more glue with the correct trowel, but worth it for the protection.


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 Post subject: Re: Anderson Hickory Forge w/ 12lbs moisture
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:23 am 
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I do lots of moisture testing and the black box thingy sounds odd. Must be a digital concrete meter. Theres the dome test(Calcium chloride) and the insitu - relative humidity test in which holes are drilled into the slab. Being digital I doubt they can come up with lbs of moisture as a calcium chloride test does. The only two tests they say is a viable test on the spec sheet is the CaCl and insitu test. Heres a link to the spec sheet, note all the qualifications ie; slab density, bond breakers and profile. If you miss one of those your done for.

http://wftaylor.com/pdf_manual/MS%20Plu ... rranty.pdf

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This warranty covers the Taylor MS Plus Advance Wood Flooring Adhesive’s ability to reduce moisture vapor
emissions at the time of installation, up to 10 lbs. per 1,000 square feet per 24 hours, as determined by an
anhydrous calcium chloride test (to ASTM F-1869-98 test method), and 85% relative humidity tested according to
ASTM F-2170 test method, down to the safe range for installation as stated by the flooring manufacturer. This
warranty is for a period of ten (10) years from date of installation.

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 Post subject: Re: Anderson Hickory Forge w/ 12lbs moisture
PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:38 pm 
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Ok - thanks for the replies.


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