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 Post subject: 100 yr old white pine floor repair
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:41 pm 
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Hi all, I just had the floors in my 100+ yr old house refinished. We're on the first coat of poly and they're looking great. However, the floor on one of the rooms was painted white and we couldn't get all of the paint out. It looked like it might pass before staining the pine, but once the darker stain went on it turned out really bad.

From what I've read, it seems the best way to fill in the gaps and have the filler take to the stain would be with a sawdust/glue mix. I have a bag of sawdust and was thinking about making putty with it and covering all the spaces between the boards in this room but I have no idea what to mix the sawdust with or how to go about doing the repair. Any help would be greatly appreciated!


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 Post subject: Re: 100 yr old white pine floor repair
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:49 am 
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I would sand it again, this time start with a heavier grit sand paper. Then just buy some pine wood filler and trowel fill the cracks, if that is desired look. I myself usually wouldnt fill the floor on a floor that is this old.

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 Post subject: Re: 100 yr old white pine floor repair
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:46 am 
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RhodesHardwood wrote:
I would sand it again, this time start with a heavier grit sand paper. Then just buy some pine wood filler and trowel fill the cracks, if that is desired look. I myself usually wouldnt fill the floor on a floor that is this old.


The paint came off perfectly off of the surface. Sanding isn't going to get whats left in the gaps. It's not cracks, its actual gaps between every board.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 yr old white pine floor repair
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:32 am 
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most 100 yr old pine floors have large gaps its normal and considered part of the look. Filling large gaps will most likely end up with a less than satisfying repair. As the seasons change those gaps will open and close with the enviroment and the filler will crack and break loose leaving a nice jagged sharp mess.

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 Post subject: Re: 100 yr old white pine floor repair
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:36 am 
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KevinD wrote:
most 100 yr old pine floors have large gaps its normal and considered part of the look. Filling large gaps will most likely end up with a less than satisfying repair. As the seasons change those gaps will open and close with the enviroment and the filler will crack and break loose leaving a nice jagged sharp mess.


I understand that believe me, the floors throughout the rest of the house have the gaps also and they look very nice. This particular room was painted white though and it looks bad. Filling in the gaps can't make it any worse, I'm just wondering what the best way to go about it would be.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 yr old white pine floor repair
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Id try to paint them black before i filled it but you can buy filler in all sorts of colors but its suppose to be filled during the sanding process so you can remove the excess. now you will have to do it by hand wiping off the excess with a damp rag doing it row by row.

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 Post subject: Re: 100 yr old white pine floor repair
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:21 pm 
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I'm a house painter, not a flooring person-so I would think that if the white paint has seeped into cracks and holes that can't be sanded or scraped with a pointed scraper (like a caulk remover scraper) or something finer line a dental pick, or nail in a vise grips, I would "paint" them too, as Kevin suggested. But, instead of paint, if you have a coat of poly on there(which will stop the stain from soaking into the surface of the floor boards), I would take a dark stain(oil, but latex might work well also), apply it to the cracks and gaps with a rag or small brush, and then wipe off the surface of the boards with rags and paint thinner (or water if you go with latex). Latex products might offer better filling. Maybe a dark "polyshade" product.

A heavy-bodied exterior house paint (Aura from Ben Moore or Duration from Sherwin-Williams) would offer good filling with less shrinkage/cracking(good flexibility) then oil stain. Might work well, all you need to do is hide the white so that your eye isn't drawn to it and you will never notice.

Maybe you could take a dry paintbrush to remove excess product, because you don't really want to fill the cracks, just coat them with something dark. Maybe even clean the cracks out with compressed air after you have filled them with stain?

ps: Just re-read the post, sounds like you need to paint the gaps between boards. Could use an airbrush with black paint/stain, or devise some sort of paint-pad (like a rag wrapped on a putty knife)you can slide between the board gaps. Then you can wipe the surface off and continue finishing the floor.


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 Post subject: Re: 100 yr old white pine floor repair
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4sp wrote:
I'm a house painter, not a flooring person-so I would think that if the white paint has seeped into cracks and holes that can't be sanded or scraped with a pointed scraper (like a caulk remover scraper) or something finer line a dental pick, or nail in a vise grips, I would "paint" them too, as Kevin suggested. But, instead of paint, if you have a coat of poly on there(which will stop the stain from soaking into the surface of the floor boards), I would take a dark stain(oil, but latex might work well also), apply it to the cracks and gaps with a rag or small brush, and then wipe off the surface of the boards with rags and paint thinner (or water if you go with latex). Latex products might offer better filling. Maybe a dark "polyshade" product.

A heavy-bodied exterior house paint (Aura from Ben Moore or Duration from Sherwin-Williams) would offer good filling with less shrinkage/cracking(good flexibility) then oil stain. Might work well, all you need to do is hide the white so that your eye isn't drawn to it and you will never notice.

Maybe you could take a dry paintbrush to remove excess product, because you don't really want to fill the cracks, just coat them with something dark. Maybe even clean the cracks out with compressed air after you have filled them with stain?

ps: Just re-read the post, sounds like you need to paint the gaps between boards. Could use an airbrush with black paint/stain, or devise some sort of paint-pad (like a rag wrapped on a putty knife)you can slide between the board gaps. Then you can wipe the surface off and continue finishing the floor.


Thanks for the suggestions. Using the exterior paint sounds like a good idea.


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